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CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 6:00am EST
have had an experience of this in new england. new hampshire has no income tax, no sales tax. every state around hampshire had one or the other. in the 1960's, and every state added another one, either the sales tax or the income tax. within hesitation of their people that the other tax would come out and the revenue would be used because it will be more effective in collecting it. every one of those states, the revenues have gone down, the income tax has gone up, and the size of government has gone up. from my standpoint, a value- added tax is just a way to grossly expand the size of the government, and it does not fix our revenue problems. more importantly than that, just the point where i think this argument ends up, the american people would annihilate any party that passed a national sales tax rate. if the democratic party thinks they are in charge now, and they are, and the republican party has done some things to marginalize itself, but if you want to resurrect a republican party, give me a value-added tax. >> let's take the value-added tax off the table for this the session,
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 7:00am EST
calls, e-mail, and tweets. after that, a look at the estate tax which is set to go up at the end of the year unless congress and the white house act. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] senior republican aides are contemplating a fallback plan for the so called "fiscal cliff", which includes extending tax cuts for the middle class and resuming a fight over spending and taxes for the wealthy later. meanwhile, going overseas, nato makes a move on the turkish border with syria. military officials deny preparations for military intervention. protesters in egypt march on the palace as mohamed morsi flees. international and domestic news is all on the table for you this morning as we open up the phone lines. also, send us a tweet. or post your comment on facebook. or send us an e-mail. we will get back to that new york times story. first, some other headlines on the domestic front. here is the "washington times." also, sticking with the senate, the baltimore sun reporting this headline -- in politics, here is the
FOX Business
Dec 4, 2012 8:00pm EST
everything from higher taxes for the rich, that is fine. higher investment related taxes on everyone, have at it. more stimulus, why not. why this folding like a cheap suit now? maybe because the financial suits figure to go along so just get along. i think that elections have consequences, i did not think that wall street so quickly selling its financial soul was one of it in other words, if you hate someone, stick with it! that's all i'm saying, charlie gasparino, liberal columnnist, -- he goes by progressive. rick you thinker. unger is here with us, and charley you first, you called it you saw it but a leap of skill on your part to conclude these3 guys are dise dis disingenuous . >> you are talking about all my sources,. neil: but you were spot on. >> deputy to hillary clinton, former morgan stanley executives trying to be obama's chief of staff. and tom knight has been making the rounds on wall street having dinners with various wall street streetictives. -- executives. and he setting the stage for an interesting wall street embrace of the president. you listen to these guys, ceo
FOX Business
Dec 5, 2012 5:00pm EST
know, 98% of americans could have their tax rates stable and not have their taxes go up. and you know, there are some taxes that would go up if we two off the fiscal cliff. you're talking about a family that makes about $50,000 having a tax increase of $4,000. melissa: congresswoman, this drives me crazy. when we look at all the numbers we immediately start talking about taxes. it seems like we're looking for revenue under every single rock. that's fine. even if we raised taxes that are proposed by the white house, it will raise $82 billion. it is one half of 1% of the problem. we have a $16.3 trillion debt. all of this talk about raising taxes doesn't get us even close to solving the problem. it doesn't even start the conversation. it is not a drop in the bucket. we've got to reform our spending or grow the economy. but just raising taxes isn't going to do it. >> well, i agree with you 100%. that's why the president as well as the democrats have called for a balanced approach. so of course we can't raise enough taxes to completely deal with the deficit. and you do have to do reforms.
FOX Business
Dec 4, 2012 7:00pm EST
both tax and in seven of reform while. he says the days available before the close should be devoted to raising taxes on the ridge. >> we're not going to be able to come up with a comprehensive tax reform package that gets it all done just an next two weeks. ww are not going to be able to come up with necessarily a comprehensive and thailand reform package that could sell the next two weeks. when you looked at what arnold reagan did back in 1986, working with bill bradley and others, that was a year-and-a-half process. among let's put a downpaymmnt on taxes, let's let tax breaks and the upper-income folks go up. lou: president obama is looking to hide even more taxes. to find more taxable victims beyond the so-called rich. but there are yet more conditions as white house press secretary jay carney today reminded us. the president demands any deal is dependent upon a hike in the nation's debt ceiling. carney says the debt ceiling is another issue the president simply cannot bring himself to negotiate with those lowly republicans on the hill. and today began a new campaign of blame for
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 9:00am EST
chancellor which the family-friendly measures whether scrapping the fuel duty increase, freezing tax are raising the personal allowance next year he thinks will be most benefit for the family? >> what i would say to my honorable friend is with have to take some difficult decisions. we've had to take difficult decisions on welfare of bring along tax breschel, operating but i try to help families were can with the personal allowance, with fuel duty. i've tried to help business. it will be extremely welcome. >> how can the chancellor seriously attend he -- [inaudible] when the 7 billion pounds he referred to today we take up to seven years to realize at the rate of 1000 a year against the rate of tax avoidance of 35 billion year? when the general anti-avoidance will be also refer to is far too narrowly drawn to be effective, and if you would listen to this, when he himself is actually now introducing a tax cut, tax havens from 23% to just 5%. >> what i would say is i don't think he's got the right figures. we are increasing the amount recovered of taxes that should have been paid from 13 bi
FOX Business
Dec 5, 2012 9:20am EST
, publicly, for an obama bailout. so, who is next? california, illinois, good question. raise tax rates on the rich or no deal. yeah, the line has been drawn again. president obama says america is poised to take off, but only if the republicans agree to tax the rich directly. he will only accept higher tax rates. how will speaker boehner respond to that? he speaks within the hour. and how about this, top anchors at a news network visit the white house for a cozy chat with the president. tell us, mr. president, how can we sell your tax the rich policy? citigroup, 11,000 jobs gone. "varney & company" about to begin. having you shipy gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ me announcer ] break from e holiday stress fedex office. >> we'll begin with sad news. dame elizabeth mother of news corporation chairman and chief executive rupert murdoch died at age 103. news point company fox. now sad news. and he's raised tax rates and he was elected based on his tax the
CSPAN
Dec 4, 2012 8:00pm EST
capital gains rate in the a.m.t. is higher than the regular tax rates from incomes around $200,000 to $500,000. and that was the first broad expansion of the a.m.t., it began to hit an awful lot of people. then in 2001 they reduced regular tax rates but did not reduce a.m.t. tax rates. . for many people, the a.m.t. tax bill only changed the name of the tax i paid. i got little benefit from the rate ofin my opinion, the expand on tax has nothing to do with the action of indexing. it is the result of the conscious decision to hike the cost of tax reductions. >> the alternative minimum tax is 28%. if your tax rate was lowered to 25%. you still have to pay 28%. >> that is correct. for incomes between to london thousand dollars and $500,000, the effective tax rate is 35%. you hit the 35% rate and incomes fire lower than the income levels at which you would hit the 35% rate and regular tax. >> why do they call it a patch? >> it is a one time year by year patch to stop the broad expansion. you could ask why they call it a cliff. they have discussed this in terms of the patch. it is a year
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 7:30am EST
between us is we won the large multinational companies to pay proper taxes here in the u.k.. we believe you do that by having lower tax rate and we reduce the rate of corporation tax but by making sure they declare their income properly. that is why on this specific issue of transfer, companies have been pursuing strange practices to pretend there revenues aren't delivered in the u.k. and run down their tax bills. .. >> the entry of the energy bill to parliament now means we can get out there and sell to all of the energy companies the very clear and stable framework that the u.k. has for offshore wind, for nuclear, for renewables and, indeed, for gas. i think it's a very positive development, there's a huge amount of potential, pent-up investment, and we need to make sure that results in british jobs and apprenticeships, and the government is fully committed to making that happen. >> [inaudible] pruitt. >> the prime minister obviously believes within the leveson report, there exists something that is bonkers. how would the prime minister give the views of his planning minister
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 7:00am EST
brilliant words they do. >> this is helping tax my own party headquarters and my own party members. i thank the executive to get to that. a recent attack on party colleagues and offices and constituency offices and staff threatened intimidation from loyalists, and if confirmed, all threats of political motivated violence will be triggered by republican attacks. >> discussing this for mr. david this morning, if it is unacceptable, all that staff were intimidated in any way comment and i know that the justice minister and i will continue to defend the ability of politicians in northern ireland to carry out their duties. >> questions for the prime minister? dr. julian lewis, number one, mr. speaker. >> before i answer my hon. friend's question i am sure the house will wish to join me in thanking the duke and duchess of cambridge on the wonderful news they are expecting their first child, the perfect piece of news to end and in court a -- extraordinary jubilee year. joining the question on afghanistan veteran global security from the al qaeda presence in afghanistan has been significantly reduc
CNN
Dec 4, 2012 11:00pm PST
boehner. and demint's press release aimed squarely at john boehner. $800 billion tax hike will destroy jobs, allow washington to spend more. as you all know, john boehner put an $800 billion tax hike as a center of his proposal. so john boehner got rejected from the white house, which wants another $800 billion on top of that in tax hikes and then rejected by the right wing of his own party which wants absolutely no tax hikes at all. so unlike harry reid, i actually feel genuine sympathy for john boehner. so kudos, speaker, for showing deserters or dissenters who is boss. boehner stripped house members who opposed key committee assignments today. and earlier i spoke with one republican leader in the house who himself has been out of step with boehner in recent days. deputy whip congressman tom cole of oklahoma. he said the gop should agree to obama's proposal to extend bush tax rates for households that make less than $250,000. and they should do that deal right now, deal with the rest later. boehner said no way. and then tom cole said boehner should not offer a counterproposal to the
PBS
Dec 5, 2012 1:00am PST
on his call for higher taxes on top income earners, something missing from the g.o.p. plan. with just three weeks left, the two sides are still at odds with their opening offers. with time ticking away to reach a deal before tax cuts expire and spending cuts hit, president obama today said he's still optimistic a deal will be done and he's willing to compromise, but negotiations just aren't there yet. >> it's going to require what i talked about in the campaign, which is a balanced, responsible approach to deficit reduction that can help give businesses certainty and make sure the country grows. >> tom: the president rejected the proposal republicans presented him yesterday. it would cut the debt by $2.2 trillion over ten years, but would not raise taxes on america's highest earners, the biggest sticking point. the two sides seem to be allowing themselves room to bargain. the president said today he'd be open to lowering tax rates for high earners later next year as part of a broad tax reform package. and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell did not directly endorse the g.o.p. pla
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 4:00pm EST
some big reforms on medicare and medica medicare, social security is, any of the retirement or tax issues, but i'll tell you this. i think that all these stories aren't necessarily going lead us to the truth. i personally have a very size way i'm approaching this. the president is supposed to leave for a 21-day vacation in hawaii on december 17th. where he is on december 18th will tell me, and i think the markets will pay attention. i find it hard to believe, and i agree with bill and many, who are very not amused by the house taking their long weekend. i'm sure that the president would have no intentions of leaving until these issues are resolved. i think the market is being kind, but i think it's a timing issue. >> yeah, i think that's a good point. somebody mentioned the other day that the president is planning a trip to hawaii on december 17th. i said, what? they said, no, no, no, not unless the deal is done. we'll see about that. meanwhile, the house goes away for a lock weekend. all right, rob. what do you think? you think we're going to get a deal done by the year end? >> i
CNBC
Dec 4, 2012 7:00pm EST
that $800 billion of tax increases were offered. but he got the backing of mitch mcconnel. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i think it sis important tha the house leadership is trying to mov move it forward. i had hoped that we would be accomplishing more in the real talks. but i can tell you, there is nothing going on privately that is not going on publicly. even as he has to deal with this rebellion. he has to deal with democrats and harry reid's comments today give you a sense of where they are coming from. >> they have to come up with specific revenue. and they refuse to do that. it is a simple question of arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. so as you know in washington, a rebellion in the ranks like this could be a problem. but in the spohort-term, if it remains constrained. it could be a good negotiating term. he could say i have offered everything that i have and still get this thing passed. you know, i never hear the discussion about spending. i'm not saying you. it is about taxes and revenues. they are supposed to have a $1.2 tr
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 1:00am EST
backdrop. i want to touch on your question about corporate and individual taxes. the third piece is small businesses. we work out how develop a tax code that is good for competitiveness. you need to think about how those play into it. i think one of the things to keep hearing through messages with different groups of people is, while everybody is aware that the solution is going to take sacrifices from all sides, on spending, on revenues -- the confidence you get for putting the deal in place to actually has tremendous economic benefits. the cheapest form of stimulus is confidence. if we can put that in place, and people believe something is going to stick, it becomes easier to do your part in all of this. if the moving pieces and revenue are there, do not underestimate the benefit of what the future holds. >> this ties into michael's point. the productivity, the amount of money they get spent maintaining and administering the complex tax code is unbelievable. i would rather be spending that money. let us get on with building a business. society should do it. people should take that as a
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm PST
than me. >> obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> the right seems to be imploding. >> i'm proud of the campaign mitt romney and i ran. >> he looked less like monty hall and more like monty burns because he wants to inflict pain on the republican. >> the implosion is going to happen very, very slowly, day, by day, by day. >> i'm proud of our party. and i'm proud of mitt romney. >> it seems right here. >> we've seen some movement over the last several days amongst some republicans. >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. >> the next 72 hours are critical. >> today's wednesday and the house is going to leave today. ♪ surrender surrender but don't give yourself away away ♪ >> in case you needed reminding, it's 21 days to christmas, but just 27 days to the fiscal cliff. the president is john boehner are facing off for what couldçe a down to the wire nail-biter of a fiscal fight. indeed, the stakes are so high, the pressure so intense, that the house is calling it quits for the week. giving themselves another much deserved brea
CNN
Dec 5, 2012 4:00pm EST
. >>> with just 27 days to go until all of us are hit with tax increases, takes it across the board a cut of $55 billion. people have it in their power to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff aren't negotiating, they're not debating right now, so many of them simply leaving town. but there's more going on than meets the eye. let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana basch, she has the latest. >> reporter: there's so much political theater around here right now, you could say tickets. one of today's acts was the house leaving. lawmakers streaming out of the capitol hill, racing to their cars to get to the airport and go home. it's a scene you usually see on a thursday afternoon or friday morning, not wednesday at noon. >> good morning. >> house republican leaders told members they're free to leave, because they have nothing to vote on. >> i understand that you are saying legislation has been put on the floor. when it comes to just pure optics of the house leaving with the fiscal cliff right in front of us -- >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down w
CNN
Dec 5, 2012 4:00am PST
morning, president obama putting his foot down. he says no tax hikes for the wealthy, no deal. america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able it to get a deal without it. >> we start this morning with white house correspondent dan lothian, he's in washington, d.c. okay. so who's got the ball in their court at this point then, dan? >> well, you know, i think the house gop, they have presented their counteroffer which white house spokesman jay carney is referring to as, quote, magic beans and fairy dust. we expect that house republicans will keep putting pressure on the white house to engage, push for more details on what the white house will accept when it comes to additional entitlement cuts. but i think what's uncle
FOX News
Dec 5, 2012 3:00pm PST
republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business owners denying they're trying to punt. >> i'll be here and available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious abouting the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with the g.o.p. leaders in weeks. not offered any counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> a balanced approach the president has been asking for. now we need response from the white house. >> reporter: they continue to insist the impediment to the deal is boehner's tax revenue is not enough. the holdup is boehner took a position the day after the campaign that said we are willing to bring in revenue but not increase rates. >> reporter: two summers a
SFGTV
Dec 5, 2012 12:30pm PST
number 10, ordinance amending the san francisco business and tax regulations code by amending article 6 (common administrative provisions) to revise the bonding requirements for parking operators; revise the time to bring an action to collect tax; clarify the extent of a surety's liability; revise the administrative citation appeal process; and make other minor technical changes; amending article 22 (parking stations; revenue control equipment) to clarify that non-city governmental entities operating parking stations are exempt from the revenue control equipment requirements; and amending the san francisco police code article 17 (miscellaneous license regulations) to clarify that government entities operating parking garages or parking lots are exempt from the permitting requirements applicable to other commercial parking garage and valet operations. >> thank you very much. i believe we have a representative from supervisor campos' office here. >> good morning, supervisors. [speaker not understood] on behalf of supervisor david campos. the legislation before you amends the city's parkin
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 12:00am PST
determined to extend the middle class tax cuts before the end of the year. that's the bottom line. party leaders and members are all on the same page. president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top tax rates go up. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> harry reid wasted no time explaining why the boehner proposal is not serious. >> math. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. that's why romney couldn't explain it during the presidential election. no one can explain it because you can't do it. >> jay carney says the speaker's plans raises more questions than answers. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and ferry dust. >> john boehner's heavy-hande
FOX News
Dec 4, 2012 10:00pm PST
this to me. the president wants a certain amount of revenue from taxes on the rich, right? >> yes. >> the republicans said okay, we'll give you that certain amount of ref knew, and do it on the rich, but the way we'll do it on the rich is deductions and closing loopholes that impact only the rich. >> right. >> to the president gets the same amount of money, he gets it from the same people, but rather than raising taxes, the republicans say we're going to do it this way, and he says no. why does he say no to that? it's the same money from the same people giving it up. >> yeah. i think he's saying no because he likes the deal that he has in place. >> it's the same amount of money. >> no, no. >> the same people. i mean, it's the same revenue and it's from the same people. >> the reason i think he's saying no, and i think he will say no to just about anything the republicans put forward is because the fall back position is better for him than any deal that the republicans are going to put forward. the fallback position is a tax increase on everybody and back to where prebush tax cuts,
CSPAN
Dec 4, 2012 8:00pm EST
decide what you're going to do now i once those taxes go up. and then when january 2nd come up, you get a committee together, and you solve the problem. i mean, how is that going to affect everyone when it comes to taxes? is it going to be the same, or will it be different? i mean, do we have to do it early? can we do it in january? >> guest: well, i would argue that there are two pieces to the fiscal cliff in that you have to do amt this year, and you -- because unless you really intend people to pay that additional tax. it would be very hard in the middle of the tax filing system to reverse that decision. now, you are, i think, correct in the second piece of the fiscal cliff. that is the tax rates that will apply next year. arguably, you don't have to take action this year, you have the whole of next year during which you can reach resolution to that issue. now, the only reason why i think that's an extraordinarily bad idea is i think it would be viewed quite unfavorably by the financial markets. and so you could see a reaction. and it is really bad tax policy to be legislating in
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 2:00pm PST
demand for higher taxes for the rich. that's good. he agreed in principle the rich must pay more. number three, there's talk for the republican leaders that they could vote to continue the tax cuts for the 98% now and therefore avoid the fiscal cliff and put off for now the top 2%. and the question then, let the debt ceiling not take effect. a tax cut delayed i argue is a tax cut avoided. joining me with the republican defense highly tauted fan of the eagles, ed rendell and alex wagner of msnbc's "now." governor, i want you to read what's going on here. first speaker boehner defended the gop's tax proposal saying it does take a bite out of the rich but president obama held firm to tax rate hike on the wealthiest. let's listen to the back and forth. >> revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the sameç people pay moref their money to the federal government without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes
CNN
Dec 5, 2012 11:00am PST
already, but guess what, folks? the deadline for congress and the white house to act, to stop the tax increase and punishing spending cuts, that deadline is coming up quicker than you may realize because did you know, congress plans to end its current session on december 21st? check your calendar as we did today. that's two weeks from friday. that means that under congressional rules any agreement, any legislation to fix this whole mess would have to be filed here by december 28th. here's the kicker. the president currently plans to leave town the day before that, on the 17th of this month. so the yearly obama trip to hawaii is set to start a week from next monday. you feel me here? see where i'm going? the window closing faster than folks think. what are our decisionmakers doing right now? among other things they are apparently sending signals through the media. republicans saying time to get moving. the president saying there is a deal to be had fairly quickly if the republicans come around to raising taxes on the wealthy. let me give you the president first. >> -- good faith offer
FOX Business
Dec 5, 2012 3:00pm EST
buybacks. he says they will be taxed at a much lower rate. take a look at the dow jones industrials. we are seeing triple digit gains for pretty much all of the session for the blue chips. money flowing into financials. citigroup is jumping. of nearly 6%. the story there, job cuts. 11,000 of them. leading to a billion dollars in savings. additional layoffs somewhere else down the line. investors are getting this move a thumbs up. we know it is tough for employees. the stock is up more than 7% today. bank of america, as you see, moving higher. the biggest gainer on the dow. jpmorgan solidly in the green. a totally different story at the nasdaq. down on the session. apple getting a 5% haircut at the moment. just under 5%. perhaps tied to the apple, samsung dispute. there is a big court hearing tomorrow. samsung is expected to ask the judge for a brand-new trial. apple down 22% from its september highs. right around the time where the iphone5 with release. the markets showing more conviction today. let's get right to the floor show. i rub, in chicago, i want to start with you. very sha
FOX
Dec 5, 2012 4:00am PST
cliff is coming down to taxes. president obama told bloomberg tv yesterday he is willing to be flexible, but there will be no deal unless republicans agree to raise income tax rates on the top 2% of wage earners in america. this week the gop offered a proposal that continues tax breaks for everyone while making cuts to medicare and social security. the president and democrats say the lack of a tax hike on the wealthy is leaving budget talks at an impasse. "60% of americans support asking millionaires to pay slightly more. many republicans feel the same way. the only ones who feel differently are the ones who work in this building. we can't let these negotiations be dictated by the tea party." "we've wasted an enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public, and it strikes me it's a good time to get serious about the proposals. traders are keying off market moves for clues about the economy. scott bauer of trading advantage joins us now. scott, what is the gold market telling traders about the prosepects of the economy going over the fiscal cliff? > > angie, it ha
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm EST
to run trillion dollar deficits throughout that time. tax policy hasn't changed during that time. tax policy is exactly the same. you hear in the newspaper all the time, mr. speaker, the bush tax cuts. i don't know that that has meaning anymore. in 2001 and 2003 we did do some dramatic changes to tax policy. president obama extended all of those changes in 2010. that's the law of the land still today. tax policy has been exactly the same over this continuum. what has changed, mr. speaker, what has changed is the spending. the reason deficits have grown not one, not two, not three but almost four times larger than the previous record deficit in american history is not because tax policy has changed, it hasn't. it's because federal spending policy has changed. and that's what we have to get our arms around here in this body. what i show going forward, mr. speaker, put a little square around the annual budget deficits that have been run during the first four years of the obama administration, but i also project what the congressional budget office believes, that's a nonpartisan budg
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 11:00am PST
raising tax rates will hurt the economy. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue. >> in order for us to raise the amount of revenue that's needed just by closing deductions and loopholes for high earners we'd have to, for example, eliminate or severely cap the char itible deduction. >> an obsession to raise taxes not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is doing something about the entitlements, taking on the wasteful spending in washington. >> and meantime, "the new york times" jonathan wiseman reports behind the scene republican leaders are considering the president's plan to extend middle class tax cuts now an address the debt and spending in the new year. here's republican senator tom coburn on "morning joe." >> actually, i would rather see the rates go up than the other way and greater chance to broaden the base in the future. >> do something, a down payment on cuts, on investments and revenue this year. and then in the next year take the time to go over what we would do with real revenue reform. you can't d
FOX News
Dec 5, 2012 3:00am PST
republicans agree to increase the tax rates. so what was on the paper yesterday was the idea to still increase revenue without increasing the actual tax rate by getting rid of the deductions and loop holes. that is not acceptable . it au pairs a hard line stance now and the meetings are off. >> brian: they talked about a two-step process. maybe we can leave the tax rates except the horrible people that make a lot of money. leave those tax rates in place and do the hard stuff in the second half . year and of course, we have the, the debt ceiling that has to be raised in a month. if the president gets his way and forces the hand of republicans to accept something they will not forget that and he will have another battle with the republicans when the ceiling has to be raised. the president is indicating to some that there is wiggle room from 35 to 39 percent and willing to accept 39 percent. >> steve: and in the jack kemp awards dinner. we saw two faces that could vy for the republican nomination in 2016. paul ryan and marco rubio. they were there to challenge what the president is askin
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 7:00am PST
because it gives us greater chance to reform the tax code and broaden the base in the future. >> chris we've heard him say some version of that before. is he the only republican who seems to be able to come out and say something like this? >> no, we saw tom cole last week suggest that maybe republicans should go along with the president and give a tax cut to 98% of americans, raise the -- >> so two republicans. >> two republicans and others privately say that there may be some room there, the trouble that speaker boehner has as you pointed out earlier in the segment is the tea party and republicans are trapped also on their messaging on this. the white house has been good about messaging that the republicans are the obstructionists in this and they are waiting until, waiting essentially republicans out on this. i did a story in "national journal" yesterday where top house republicans brought in some of the best gop communicators in washington and said we have a messaging problem here. we want to get a deal, the white house isn't talking to us. how do we want to put that out in the publ
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 3:00am PST
ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bear bones competence and middle school-level maturity. so is there a deal? >> there's, of course, no deal. >> of course! is there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> of course! but the ongoing talks. >> there aren't even very many talks going on. >> you're killing us! give us something. >> but for the first time, there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> numbers on paper! >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 5th. welcome to "morning joe." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> washington is the place. with us on set, economic analyst steve rattner. also political editor and
CBS
Dec 4, 2012 5:30pm PST
evening. president obama dug in his heels today insisting on tax revenues for higher income earners but at a hint of compromise he said he would consider lowering tax breaks again next year. mr. obama wants to raise taxes on individuals who make more than $200,000 a year and on couples making more than $250. he said this today. the way to recovery. bill whitaker reports from california. schools close as the flu bug spreads. elaine quijano reports on where the virus is woshs and how efgtd the vaccine can be. and what city in america. >> raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with >> the issues is that we are going to have to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with very you have to cuts that we've already made and we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> pelley: that, the republican house speaker said in response, will never work. the republican counter offer cuts spending and raises taxes for no one and nancy cordes has the state of play as of tonight. nancy? >> reporter: scott, a dispute erupte
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 8:00am PST
agree that the sky is blue on the one issue when keeping tax cuts where they are for the middle class. >> right. >> why can't we get that one step accomplished and maybe move on to step two which is a bigger and bolder plan? >> that's what congressional democrats and president obama would like to see happen, and we have a discharge petition, which would bring the bill that has been sent from the senate and pass the senate overwhelmingly sent to the house, take that bill up and give, extend the tax breaks to the middle class and give certainty to the middle class as we move to, continue to move into the holiday season. all of the tax rates expire december 31st and we can deal with the tax breaks for the wealthiest most fortunate americans and others to avoid the fiscal cliff between now and december 31st but take what we agree on which is that the middle class tax cuts should be extended and tax rates should not go up for the middle class, let's do that now. the republicans refuse to do that thus far, which is sort of baffling. even some of their senior members like tom cole from oklah
FOX Business
Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm EST
business leaders he is cheering for their success. tax hikes for the wealthy saying there will be no deal without tax rate increases. melissa: 11,000 now out of work at citi. slashing jobs taking a billion dollars charge as it repositioned oppositions. charlie gasparino tells us it is even more cuts are on the way. lori: new warnings and ethanol blended gasoline. joining us on whether you should be worried about what you put into your gas tank. let's get up to speed, back the floor of the new york stock exchange and nicole petallides. economic data on the service industry. nicole: looking good, lori and melissa. up 125 points. after two days of selling we are seeing some market action to the upside. we are above the 13,000 mark, well above that. 13,076. the nasdaq squeezing it out. concern for apple, but financials are doing well. let's take a look at the group. laying off 11,000 workers, that is the plan. a new ceo in place and he wants to make his mark. up 6.5%. it is under pressure, nowhere near $700 for the all-time high in september. the latest findings other actually going to use th
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Dec 5, 2012 4:00pm EST
looming deadline for tax cuts and spending cuts. david: a fiscal deal could be reached in a week. rich edson with the latest. it was an off the record meeting. this is a meeting that affects all of us. speak of the business roundtable says all the meetings are off the table and they have the initial remarks live and available to the press. in that the president did say we could settle this issue in a week if republicans relent on their position for taxes. offering $800 billion in tax revenue, coming from only closing loopholes and seductions, no to a tax rate increase for the president says it is making $250,000 or more, tax rates are going up. >> we will not raise them just out of spite, but rather because the need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, think he has an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that could pass both chambers of commerce. if you look at the plans the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. >> high-level negotiations have basical
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 4:00am EST
president obama is pushing forward his tax for the wealthy agenda. george osbourne is going to update today. the chancellor will have his work cut out to meet his target of eradicating the federal deficit by 2015 as well as securing a fall to gdp ratio. also expected further pressure with a cut to its growth forecast. steve is braving rather inclement british winter weather outside the houses of parliament. >> lovely. >> i know you like it. how much is it going to be raining on george osbourne's parade? >> it's going to rain on his parade. you just nailed it, ross. three things which are going to come up today, which he has very little control over. one is that obr reckoning on the uk economy. thought only back in march it was going to grow -- pain a negative growth for the year. next year they thought it was going to be 2% growth. it's probably only going to be 1%. in terms of those two targets you mentioned, eradicating the structural deficit in a five-year period, that's going to have another couple of years. >> right. now, there we go. you can see jim there in egypt. i wonder whet
PBS
Dec 5, 2012 12:00am PST
be no deal to avert an economic plunge unless republicans agree to increase taxes on the wealthiest americans. good evening. i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, kwame holman has the latest on washington's impasse on taxes and spending. >> ifill: then we examine nato's decision to send patriot anti- missile systems to turkey, as fears grow that syrian chemical weapons could cross the border. >> woodruff: jeffrey brown talks to mcclatchy newspapers' egypt correspondent nancy youssef about the massive antigovernment protests in cairo today. >> ifill: we continue our series of conversations about the fiscal cliff. tonight we hear from economist paul krugman. >> i don't think there's going to be much of a deal. i think there's going to be a kind of... there will be an outcome. >> woodruff: from haiti, fred de sam lazaro reports on the efforts to stem a deadly cholera epidemic that began after the 2010 earthquake. >> ifill: and ray suarez talks to author and journalist tom ricks about what he describes as the decline of american military leadership
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Dec 5, 2012 2:00pm PST
said today that he would rather see tax rates go up than close loopholes because then he thinks he can get tax reform passed in the future. a little bit of wishful thinking. >> i know we have to raise revenue. i don't really care which way we do it. actually, i would rather see the rates go up than do it the other way because it gives us greater chance to reform the tax code and broaden the base in the future. >> jennifer: so he's not giving in. he's just bargaining now to see what he can get later. and then we've got the fourth stage which is depression. which is often accompanied according to elizabeth kubler ross by wistful thoughts of better times. newt gingrich is planted firmly in this stage. he said he longs for the 1990s when republicans led by him of course, were, in his estimate aches, republicans were more able, more powerful, able to get president clinton to bend to their will or at least so he said on piers morgan last night when he said "we earned president clinton's respect by closing the government twice and being very rough and tumble. we showed we actually were willin
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Dec 4, 2012 6:00pm PST
that could raise taxes by year's end. we begin with a report from newshour congressional correspondent kwame holman. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top two percent go up. we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: in his first interview since the election, president obama rejected a proposal from house speaker john boehner. he spoke on bloomberg television. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. i'm happy to entertain other ideas that the republicans may present. but we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or to cut our way out of this deficit problem that we have. we're going to need more revenues. in order to do that, that starts with higher rates for the folks at the top. >> reporter: the president did say today he would consider lowering rates again for the top two percent next year as part of a broader tax overhaul. the house republican plan envisions $2.2 trillion in deficit reductions over the next decade. $800 billion would come from new revenues but with no hike in tax rates for top earners
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Dec 5, 2012 11:00am EST
on this is the campaign to raise taxes on wealthier americans. he says it is all part of the budget that he has put out over the last few years. that budget calling for tax increases over the next decade on families earning more than $250,000 a year. he campaigned on march revenue less than that. tax deductions they can't, they just say they would not raise tax rates. that really has been the key to all of this. connell: we are kind of caught in the middle. you saw the president speaking on the screen while rich was speaking. the audio still is not quite right of it. thank you. there we go. citigroup. another big story today. the stock has been up. 11,000 people, though, losing their jobs. that is what happens a lot of times when you cut jobs. dagen: listen up, verizon wants to collect information from infrared cameras and microphones in your living room. you want to see somebody who is hot, the judge. you will hear how he feels about that very thing. connell: it was a seven figure year. we will tell you exactly how much he brought in. first, the oil market today. 87.69 for crude. w
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Dec 4, 2012 9:00pm PST
there to cult spending and impose his tax hikes. all of this has a growing number of lawmakers now openly suggesting that the country may see -- the president may secretly want the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. earlier today our hannity cameras caught up with a senator from wisconsin on capitol hill. >> it's increasingly clear to me that the president is very willing to go over the cliff. i think he ought to be spending more time listening and less time lecturing. the president seems to be just fixated on increasing tax rates even though they may hurt the economy and i'm concerned if we go over the cliff, that what we're going to see is unemployment back above 9% and we'll see, you know, a country where we're in a second recession. >> all right. the senator is absolutely right. what we heard from president in recent days amounts to nothing more than con descending lectures. in fact, he sounds like the same hyperpartisan canada that we saw on the campaign trail, you know, the one that worked tire leslie to demonize success. the president appears to have a out right unhealthy
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Dec 5, 2012 12:00am EST
and numbers look pretty scary from tax perspective ther if we went er the fiscal clit would increase taxes 5.6 trillion. that is 10-year period. fairly say no one believes we would staon the road for 10 years. i want to do it so you do side by side comparison. spending cuts 1.2 trillion. the president wants to raise taxes 1.6 trillion. cut spending by 600. the house plan looks like sort of a flip-flop of that. what do you think of all these numbers. what do u make of it? what is your first impression? >> i think the point that you made is almost in passing is very ey point. thesese areprections. the 10-year projections. when was last time in washington 10-year spending projections actually came in at or low what the projections wewere met to be it never happens. sames true o the revenue side wit taxes. i think the numbers we're lang out here are probly the quote, uuote best-case scenario terms of what could actually hapn. just in terms of the pure math. not in terms whether or not it is good poli, just in terms of pure math. one reason going over t cliff looks more attractive in term
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 2:00pm EST
, the impact here is really focused on the rates, tax rates. that's where we're going to be seeing this negotiation over the next couple of days. that's where we've been for the past year-and-a-half. no indication yet that the logjam is breaking there exactly, but courtney, some movement here may be a little bit in tone in washington. so that's something. >> that's something. we'll take whatever we can get at this point i think, eamon. thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. >>> now we found bob pisani. he's on the floor of the new york stock exchange. >> we've been talking about what's going on in the day and why this rally in the middle of the day. take a look. this is what everybody's talking about here. there have been vague rumors that the republicans may be breaking ranks a little bit and some may be willing to accept tax hikes. that would be a break-through if we can. of course the question is what to do on the spending side but one step at a time. it is still very vague as you heard from eamon. apple has been a big question. there's a lot of complicated things go
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 6:00pm EST
all of the cards in the tax fight. the gop's on the ropes and they are ready to cave. but with all things republican, there's always a catch. that's right. speaker boehner and company are looking to hold the debt ceiling hostage again. willing to downgrade our credit rating again. willing to risk our recovery again. just to get their way on spending cuts. the only problem for them, the president is in no mood to play. >> so i want to send a very clear message to people here. we are not going to play that game next year. in congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation which, by the way, we have never done it in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> sorry speaker boehner. find someone else to play economic game with. the president isn't interested. he's done with their gimmicks. he's done with their ploys. he's done with the argument that they are the serious ones in this whole debate. >> so we ask the president, sit down with us,
CBS
Dec 5, 2012 4:00am PST
the tax rate for the top 2% not now but later. and republicans are now taking some heat over their latest plan a lot of it from within their own party. >> five, four -- >> reporter: house speaker john boehner led the countdown to the lighting of the capitol hill christmas tree last night. >> one. >> reporter: but a different countdown weighs on the minds of these lawmakers, the countdown to the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end the year. >> god bless us, everyone. >> reporter: speaker boehner offered the republican proposal this week and now he faces opposition from president obama. >> the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> reporter: some in his own party are lining up against him. jim demint a tea party leader said speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend even more. disagreements among republicans and democrats here on capitol hill is nothing new, but tuesday a republican aide told us the two sides aren't even talking. not surprisingly the white house disa
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 9:00am PST
trench warfare. i asked speaker boehner about the $250,000 bush tax cuts, all the polling shows the country will think republicans are to blame if we go over the fiscal cliff, six out of ten voters in november said the tax rates should go up, how much longer can he afford to politically keep this pledge and he said look, you heard it there, the rates when we close the revenues, loopholes will go up on the rich people. that still is the mindset. what's interesting, is talking to republicans leaving the house conference gop conference this morning, there is a lot of support for speaker boehner. there aren't cracks like there were during the debt limit where he had a faction that was lining up against him wholeheartedly. even after yesterday we heard all the stuff of fallout from the conservative right against his position, that conference this morning was pretty supportive of speaker boehner and seem to be -- say something we say way too often here in washington, d.c., doubling down on the speaker's approach, at least here in early december. >> everyone seems to be doubling down, luke
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 2:30am PST
of automatic tax hikes on everybody and what appears to be a stalemate in the negotiations. in his first interview since the election, president obama reiterated his demand that any deal must raise taxes on the highest earner. yesterday obama also appeared to showroom for flexibility on actually relowering those tax rates in the future. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. p what i've suggested is let's essentially put a down payment on taxes. let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform, we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans a
FOX News
Dec 5, 2012 2:00am PST
session. >> the white house proposal raises taxes 1.6 trillion over a decade. republicans close loopholes and get rid of deductions. they say the mast won't work. >>> it is still out of balance. it is 800 million worth of revenues. he said he is going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the map it doesn't work. >> the house majority with kevin mccarthy said yesterday the speaker moved to the middle by putting revenue on the table. jay carney also said the boehner plan is quote pagic beans and fair redust. >>> peter doocy, live in washington. thank you. >>> chaos in cairo. egyptian president mohammed morsi returning to the presidential palace overnight. he left amid clashes between police and 100,000 protestors. look at that. they are outraged over her recent power grab. it shows there should be great concern about morsi. >> people have said the muslim brotherhood is moderate, it is responsible, it will not be a problem if it takes power has been proven wrong i think beyond a shadow of a doubt. this man is in power through whatever means he can get it. >> steve harriga
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 10:00am EST
will find the right solution for solving our issues of middlele class tax cuts and the fiscal deadline and make sure we move in a very positive direction. with that i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from texas. the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from michigan. mr. conyers: mr. speaker, we have no further speakers. i am prepared to return the balance of our time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman. mr. smith: we have no further speakers on this side. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the question is, will the house suspend the rules and pass bill h.r. 6620. so many as are in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, 2/3 of those voting having responded in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the bill is passed, and without objection the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? mr. smith: mr. speaker, morph that the house suspend the rules and pass h.r. 6602, to make rev
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Dec 5, 2012 10:00am PST
. >> coming up the fiscal fight continuing. he split with his party on taxes. what is republican tomb cole saying now? first as john boehner look lights the capitol christmas tree is he channeling tiny tim or scrooge. >> god bless us and everyone and from my family to yours, merry christmas. en i was in an accide. i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> revenues we're putting on the table will come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will ha
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Dec 4, 2012 11:00pm EST
, joe shaw looks at the estate tax, which is set to go up the end of the year plus, your e-mails, phone calls, and tweets. "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. now come in a discussion of how the military and national security might be a affected by spending cuts at the first of the year. part of the so-called fiscal cliff. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mike mike mullen, was joined at how services committee. this is a less than an hour. >> good afternoon. thank you for coming. my name is peter peterson. i would like to give you a review of why we are supporting this project today. starting about 30 years ago, after studying the profound demographic trends, on the vast and unfunded promise we have made. i have decided was not unsustainable, but a primary threat to the future. speaking of unsustainable, in the nixon white house in which i served, the chairman of the council, if something is unsustainable, he says it continues to stop. or if you don't like that, if your worst eyes, i suggest that you does not dismount. in lieu of that retirement, i d
SFGTV
Dec 4, 2012 11:30pm PST
52% of the total sales of taxes paid by businesses in the city. it's also important to note for every $100 spent locally owned independent businesses generate $68 iní%( z5 local economic act, and that compares to only $43 by the national chains or chain stores. joining the small business commission, office of small business, and our local partners, women impacting public policy, the san francisco chamber of commerce and sf travel, i wanted to urge everyone to shop locally during this holiday season. and we wish everyone a great and your holiday with your family friends and loved ones. i also wanted to invite people out on thursday, december 6, that's thursday, december 6, in the evening for our annual clementine, join the merchants from the green apple bookstore to park lifee÷jc- gallery and fy notions small businesses like foggy notion as we celebrate the holidays with our great clement street businesses. thank you. >> clerk calvillo: thank you. president chiu. >> president chiu: first of all i'd like to adjourn today's meeting in recognition of the passing of ellen farlly, t
Comedy Central
Dec 5, 2012 1:00am PST
cliff that we ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bare-bones competence and middle school level maturity. (laughter) so the there a deal. >> there's, of course, no deal. >> jon: of course! is there there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> jon: of course! (laughter) but the ongoing talks -- >> there aren't even very many talks going on. (laughter) >> jon: damn! you're kidding us! give us something! >> but for the first time there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> jon: numbers on paper! (cheers and applause) we have numbers on paper! from both sides! (whispering snvpld we're all going to be okay. (laughter) how were -- numbers on paper. how were negotiations being conducted before they decided to put numbers on paper? (laughter) were they communicateding by pheromones like aunts? (laughter) vanity cards? is that how this was going? were the two sides just spray painting a side and hoping it wanders past the other sid
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Dec 5, 2012 6:00am PST
, 2012. will republicans cry uncle on taxes? with the holidays approaching, last night house spaeker john boehner took a break from the fight. . >> god bless us, everyone. and from my family to yours merry christmas. >> five, four, three, two, one. good job. >> well, that was one countdown clock. this morning the president is going to tell a graup of ceos that businesses need the certainty that middle class families won't see their taxes go up it at the end of the year. the president made it clear in his first interview since being re-elected on bloomberg news that he does not plan to budge on the idea of raising tax rates for the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> unfortunately it is still out of balance. $800 billion worth of revenues but he says he'll do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. we're going to have to see the top 02% go up. we're not going to be able to to get a deal without it. >> leaving open the possibility that they could come down again next year as part of comprehensive tax reform. >> let's let those go up and then let's set up a proces
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 12:00pm EST
. we passed in the senate this summer in july, i guess it was july 24, a tax cut for middle-class families, meaning we would continue the tax rates for those families. that kind of certainty is badly needed right now. so one of the best things that could rap right now is the house could vote and the president would sign into law legislation that would provide certainty for middle-class families. 98% of american families, and some 97% of small businesses. so it's time for the house to act. secondly, i think we have to take steps to make sure that we're creating jobs at a faster pace, as i mentioned before. i'm introducing legislation today to help middle-class families and -- middle noik families and to boost hiring. it would expand the payroll tax cut from last year for one year and give employers a tax credit for hiring. and i'll be talking about that legislation. now, the payroll cut that we -- tax cut that we put into place last year had a number of benefits. i won't go through all of those today but the joint economic committee, the committee of which i'm the chairman, just pu
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Dec 5, 2012 3:00am PST
congress to take immediate action to avoid those automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january. president obama is saying that with the way speaker boehner plan stands now, no deal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. we will have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we are not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> that was an exclusive with bloomberg t.v. and the first televised interview since the president's re-election. as you heard, taxes are the big issue blocking this deal from taking place. president obama is calling for downhill the amount of tax revenue as speaker boehner over the next tens years, most from the nation's top earners. many. republicans say that's not the way to handle this. here is marco rubio. >> it wouldn'ting make a small bent in the debt but it would heard middle class businesses. >> the g.o.p. could be risking a civil war over this issue. it does not look like obama is ready to cave. if that forces republican leaders to compromise staunch conservatives will likely rebel. more "bill press" up after the break. we wi
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, america's lopsided tax code. more and more economists are starting to admit the real problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cc >> with all the hysteria over the fiscal cliffs, there was euphoria when john boehner puts fort a proposal. his proposal fails every test. let's not forget, the deficit isn't the biggest problem. it's the lack of demand and equity in our distribution of income, two little data points we shouldn't forget. 93% of the in jump added in the 2010 went to the top 1% and wages are the lowest they've ever been. it's simply not fair. for ideas to solve the problems and the deficit at the same time, bob rob an and larry summers suggested some away raise capital gains taxes. lets stop giving capital preferences over earned income. it's only fair and right. it won't solve the problem but will go a long way. back to john boehner. he doesn't say anything about this, because he refuses to raise rates. it can only be because he refuses to see the real problem. joining me now congressman thank you for joining us as always. >> thank you. am
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Dec 4, 2012 9:00pm EST
hae investment income, capital gains or dividen, not only do you have to pay taxes when youou cah out, you're going to have to pay an extra surtax on top of that. so whate're seeing is the ira saying, we have to a shoot ibly 1509 pages of rules. it becomes -- >> a little bit about this and then it diappeared. apparently it disappeared from the irs. all of a sudden out of the blue have that already april april 15th. >> nancyeli said we have to pass it to see what's in it. well now we're seeing what's in it. the rules are supposed to help la $318 billion over te %-health reform.o help pay for the thing is, there may be a brannew form tht taxpayers have to deal with t basically calce the mass. it sounds like a migraine. but i'll tell you sometng. here's th kiker. this surtax is supposed togo on investment income. what they're struggling with bell is, wait a second. what about rental income. rental income is a big deal. ere those. coach rental income fora house or apament or whaever. up to you sometng. that's something that is nt a hot debate behind-the-scenes. it wasnot taking care f, an
SFGTV
Dec 5, 2012 11:30am PST
. >> item number 5, resolution approving the issuance of a tax exempt obligation by the abag finance authority for nonprofit corporations in an aggregate principal amount not to exceed $32,000,000 to finance and refinance various capital facilities owned by san francisco friends school. >> thank you. for this item we have anthony abizon. >> good morning, members of the budget analyst committee. my name is anthony [speaker not understood] with the controller's office of public finance. the item before you approves the issuance of $32 million to finance and refinance capital improvements at san francisco friends school. there is no fiscal impact to the city and the city is not responsible for repayment. the resolution adopting the resolution would allow the financing to proceed on a tax exempt basis. and in the audience is bond counsel and members, representatives from the school if you have any project specific questions. >> thank you. just a quick question. this item does not have any fiscal impact for the city. so, therefore, there's no budget analyst report for that, there is no ge
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 11:00pm PST
them here, which is a normal break you give a kid who grows up in texas. you tax them on that. what a rotten approach to take just to win a couple points against perry. now he's saying a tactical mistake. >> but this was his whole campaign was basically a businessman's approach and accommodating product for the consumer, and the consumer in the primary was a conservative voter, just as a consumer in massachusetts was a liberal voter, and the general election was different. he thought he had to come at him from the right. in retrospect it's easy for matt rhoades to say we should have -- knocked him out with this -- >> why didn't he just say it's wrong. >> it's a little early to -- >> it's morally wrong to beat the hell out of young people who grew up, children of immigrants, legal or not. they didn't break any laws, the kids, and they're trying to go to school here. >> it's funny, at the time governor perry, and newt gingrich at the time as well, was much to the left of mitt romney on immigration. so i just think the campaign manager, matt rhoades, is someone -- he's an operative, he's
FOX News
Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm PST
the middle class people and we are the working class people that have paid our taxes and we are not getting anything in run. it is always fema, deny this. you have to reapply. it is a joke. a joke. you are the president of the united states, you got that pen, you bailed out the banks, bail out the american people that don't have homes for the holidays. the president is going away. he is going to hawaii for christmas for 20 something days, where am i going to be? where are my neighbors going to be? we will not have a place called home. mr. president, you have to do something. you are the president. you got to get fema to react and put the trailers in areas and let people have places to live for the holiday. you are going to enjoy your holiday in hawaii. i'm going to be here with in lights, no electric, no plumbing, not having my kids here, what am i going to do for the holidays? you will be warm. i may be cold. maybe get sick. you know what? me and my wife have been stressed out, depressed, we have anxiety we have panic attacks at night when we hear noise that someone is breaking int
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm EST
there may be some republican members starting to break ranks with the leadership on the tax issue. there's talk now that some republicans might be willing to accept higher taxes for the wealthy. this would be a break-through. we're monitoring that. now to what sue was talking about on apple. there are some firms raising margin requirements. i think the main catalyst today was an at&t investor conference where executives of at&t gave sales figures for smartphones for the first two months of the quarter that basically implied sales will be flat for the quarter compared to the same period last year. this includes smartphones, samsung as well as the iphone. the concern is that iphone sales might disappoint a little bit here. ipad shares may be on the weak side of the tablet market. >>> citigroup laying off 1,000 people and the financials are the bright spot of the day. very depressing story, frankly. >> it is at this time year to lose that many jobs. thank you, bob pisani. we'll cover apple in-depth later in the hour. >>> it is worth taking another look at citi. trading up almost 6.5%
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 6:00am EST
. jim mcnerny says including meaningful and comprehensive tax and entitlement reforms. this is the number one story that we've been talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody continues to hold back on the uncertainty. and we believe the economy is pretty well positioned potentially in 2013 if we can put this behind us. so i think a lot of what's going on is what
CBS
Dec 5, 2012 12:00pm PST
frozen. so far - no een >>> tensions over tax hikes and spending cuts have left the "fiscal cliff" talks all but frozen. so far no face-to-face meetings have been scheduled between the democrats and republicans. cbs reporter danielle nottingham with the president's push now to sell his plan to american businesses. >> reporter: president obama asked business leaders this morning to support his plan to prevent a fiscal crisis. >> let's allow higher rights to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes, but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles. >> reporter: if no deal is reached between democrats and republicans before the end of the year, taxes will go up for everyone and automatic spending cuts will kick in. the president wants bush-era tax breaks to expire for households making $250,000 or more. republicans are adamantly opposed to that. >> closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue than raising rates. >> reporter: republicans are also pressing their case with the public. house gop leaders i
CBS
Dec 4, 2012 11:00pm PST
complain the gop plan is way too vague. the president won't sign anything that doesn't increase taxes for the wealthy. the gop counter offer calls for raising 800 billion in revenue without raising tax rates. >> if washington can't reach a deal cbs reporter jim axle rod says your paycheck is going to feel it. >> the payroll tax cut has given this family an extra $70 a month to spend. >> are you paying attention to what's going on in washington right now. >> of course we are. >> their 50,000-dollar a year income puts them in the middle of american households if the payroll tax cut is not extended those families would pay an average of $1,035 a year more in social security taxes. >> do you have room to cut back. >> no, sir i don't. i guess if i do some type of magic like we do every month. >> if the tax cut expires paycheck contributions will go from 4.2 percent to 6.2 percent. $115billion a year that will go to deficit reduction instead of being pumped into the economy. those in favor of allowing the tax cut to expire argue money for social security payments has to come from somewhere. alt
Current
Dec 5, 2012 6:00am PST
forth the petition for the middle class tax cuts in the house. >> like that. >> stephanie: a little something for everybody this morning. here she is, jacki schechner for everybody. in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody! president obama is meeting with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention. the white house making the case that extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class is directly connected to the health of our businesses. companies need to know consumers will be able to spend and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democra
CBS
Dec 5, 2012 6:30pm EST
the fiscal cliff unless republicans agree to tax increases. reports from major garrett and chip reid. elaine quijano on a new study that could lead to a major change in treatment for breast cancer. >> recurrence is something you live with for your entire life. >> pelley: a household name in computers is wanted in a murder investigation. bob orr reports he was tracked down by the technology he lived by. and we note two milestones: an eyewitness to this moment in history has died. then anthony mason will take five to remember dave brubeck, a giant of jazz. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening, they've never said it quite like this: the president's treasury secretary made it clear there is no room for compromise. republicans must accept an increase in tax rates for upper-income americans. negotiations on a budget deal haven't gone very far and there are just 27 days before that so-called fiscal cliff. that's the package of tax increases for most americans and budget cuts that will hit automatically unless the white house a
PBS
Dec 5, 2012 6:00pm EST
times" reported republicans might accept higher tax rates on wealthier americans to avoid triggering tax hikes for everyone. in return, they'd demand greater spending cuts next year before raising the federal borrowing limit. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which, by the way, we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game because we've got to... we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> reporter: the 2011 standoff between the president and republicans led the nation to the brink of national default. standard and poor's even lowered its rating on u.s. government bonds. now, the president has proposed he be given authority to raise the debt ceiling without congressional action. house republicans reject that idea. and they've called for raising revenue without rate hikes, plus major savings in entitlement programs. the president argued today a partial deal is possible on taxes, if the g.o.p. will
SFGTV2
Dec 4, 2012 8:30pm PST
sitting out there. how to do that, it remains to be seen. but then that will require some other tax. that would be my big request like everybody else. get america's finances under control and that will take both parties. it will take taxes and it will take reduction in commitments that have been made. it now can be validated. let's get this but do it in a way that exacerbates the uncertain economy. the second -- we have to happen through innovation. whether it is the space program or tax credits for renewable energy. all that is important. we have to keep that going. that will get hard because we will face is demographics. that is my 74th birthday on april 7. i am aware of the and aging population which i have become and we are an aging population relative to what we were. luckily, we have millions of fresh arrivals that are younger and are energetic and they come from all over the world. we have to make sure our education system lifts them to their highest aspirations. when the society ages, it tends to -- it declines. that is the big demographic imperative. i was reviewing one of
CNN
Dec 5, 2012 6:00am PST
republicans who are angry at his new pitch to raise $800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meet
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 10:00pm PST
obama which included a mythical increase in tax revenue of $800 billion obtained by reducing or eliminating unspecified tax deductions was taken seriously by no one in the senate except republican jim demipt. speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. the heritage foundation skewered the boehner counteroffer on its blog. at first blush, it appears little more than categorical preemptive capitulation. to be fair, the details of the republican proposal are extraordinarily vague to the extent it can be interpreted from the hazy details that it is utterly unacceptable. president obama said today there is a time and a place to discuss reforming the tax code. but that time is not now. >> what i've suggested is let's put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. let's let those go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform. we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close. and it is possible that we may
CNN
Dec 5, 2012 12:00am PST
us want to see taxes on middle class folks go up. >> the president is very determined to try to prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff. >> those three guys are here live. and the man who shut down the government under bill clinton. what newt gingrich thinks it will take to avoid that happening again. >>> plus one of my personal heroes, the fastest man in the history of planet earth. jamaican sprinter usain bolt revealing a talent you may not know he has. ♪ let's get together and feel all right ♪ >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. our big story tonight, you are so hot, america. i mean that literally. the temperature was a balmy 60 degrees this afternoon in new york just outside cnn's studios. the average high temperature in december is normally 43. a warm front has flooded the lower 48 states. quite extraordinary but is it evidence of man-made global warming? that's tonight's battleground america. joining me now, bill nye the science guy and mark morano, the publisher of climate depo.com. welcome to you both. let me start with you, mark, if i may. you a
PBS
Dec 4, 2012 4:00pm PST
sticking point for conservative republicans is to agree to raise taxes. one of them is republican congressman from georgia, jack houston. there's a lot at stake in america and international economies as well. can you reassure them that you will come to some sort of a deal? >> i think that we will. we're in the early stages of the serious negotiations and that president -- the president has put forth an offer and speaker john boehner has put forth that offer. the fact that this is rejected is to be expected but it is testing ground. we have seen that between them have gone through this process. i believe we will get there. both sides so that we cannot win are refusing to compromise. we both have our right to be here and we have countered with some revenue in places. we want to see what the president will do in terms of cuts. where are concerned about the deficit. i believe we will get there. i really do. >> you are a perennial optimist. you make everything seem sunny. we are at a stalemate. republicans do not want to raise taxes and democrats to know what to -- do not want to cut s
NBC
Dec 5, 2012 6:30pm EST
, rising frustration, americans asking why the holdup. and what will their taxes look like in 2013. >> maybe instead of getting my sister two things, you give one thing, you have to give pause on what could happen next year. >> reporter: today, president obama and house republicans are locked in a politicalstair staredown. >> we can probably solve it in a week, it is not that tough, we need that breakthrough that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> although the president seems obsessed about raising taxes on you, we feel it is not the right direction to go. >> reporter: it comes down to a tug of war over taxes. the president's proposal, increasing rates on americans making more than $250,000, to raise 1.6 trillion over a decade. house speaker john boehner wants to cut the number in half. >> there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government. without raising tax rates. >> reporter: and the president today offered this warning to republicans. amid reports they may accept mr. obama's plan to extend tax cut
CBS
Dec 5, 2012 5:00pm EST
do want a deal. if they can't find some compromise before the end of this year, taxes will go up for everybody and some massive spending cuts will kick in. president obama has rejected the latest profile bit republicans because it does not include a -- proposal by the republicans because it does not include a tax hike on the wealthy americans offering instead to close some tax loopholes, danielle nottingham with the latest from capitol hill. >> reporter: house members left the capitol in the middle of the fiscal fight not due back until next week, but house speaker john boehner is staying behind ready to sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making over $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> revenues we're putting on the table will come from, guess who, the rich. >> reporter: house republicans say if bush era tax cuts aren't extended for everyone, it will hurt the economy and
CNN
Dec 4, 2012 10:00pm PST
from today, automatic tax hikes and spending cuts kick in with potentially serious consequences for virtually every taxpayer in america. there has been zero progress on a deal, zero. keeping them honest though, the american people clearly want some sort of a compromise. polls show they want results but the two sides are still far apart on the issue at the heart of the debate, whether the wealthiest americans should pay more taxes than they do right now. the people you elected to get things done simply are not getting it done, not even close. but maybe we should not be surprised, because in a cnn/orc poll taken a few weeks ago, 67% said washington officials would behave like spoiled children in fiscal cliff discussions. only 28% said they would behave like responsible adults. with that in mind, here's what the key players, the grownups, have said in just the past 24 hours. listen. >> the math, it doesn't work. >> his proposal was so outlandish, i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. >> we're not going to twist ourselves into
CSPAN
Dec 5, 2012 5:00pm EST
belief. the only way to get it in order is through rapid economic growth. no taxes you can raise to bring the debt down. what the president is offering is not enough but will make a dent on job creation, particularly middle-class job creation. i oppose his plan. we should do real tax reform. if there are loopholes, there is a loophole for being able to write off your yacht as a second home. let's go after that. we need more revenue and the way you do that is through rapid economic growth. it's the only way to generate the kind of revenue you need and hold it. >> what's the only way you would raise tax rates on the top 2%? >> the number one issue is to grow the economy and creating jobs. i believe that proposal will hurt job creation. the tru millionaires, they have the best accountants and lawyers in america. do whatever you want, they are go to go maximize it. the people who get crushed, the small s corporation who can't afford to do this in the tax code and ends up getting creamed. they have to get the money from somewhere. though can lay off workers, and none of those things are
FOX News
Dec 5, 2012 10:00am PST
the virtues of taxing the rich. we will play the video and debate what kind of message this ascending. >> the 1% said don't worry, this is good for you because it will trickle down from us to you. someday you will be rich and someday you will be rich and these rules will be your rules too. fancy water. i've gotine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of these risk factors can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup inheir arteries. so it's even more important to lower their cholesterol, and that's why, when diet and exercise alonaren't enough, i prescribe crestor. in a clinical trial versus lipitor, crestor got more high-risk patients' bad cholesterol to a goal of under 100. [ female announcer ] cr
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